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Podcast: Cluttons boss on leading like Steve Jobs and the state of UK planning

John Gravett talks to CoStar News' Top CREdentials podcast
John Gravett. (Cluttons/CoStar)
John Gravett. (Cluttons/CoStar)
CoStar News
April 22, 2026 | 1:44 P.M.

Having entered the top job at Cluttons around a year ago, John Gravett says he likes to keep his leadership style simple, adopting a similar approach to the late Apple founder and technology pioneer Steve Jobs, who once said, "simple can be harder than complex".

"That's an area that I have always tried to focus on, be that in my current position now, or be that when I was looking after client mandates, or when I was looking after a lease renewal rent review negotiation," Gravett says.

The Cluttons CEO is no stranger to technology sector himself, having worked on property acquisitions for telecoms giant Vodafone during the early part of his career.

He tells CoStar News' Top CREdentials podcast that it was this role, where he experienced the firm's Newbury headquarters, that gave him a taste for the corporate world.

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Gravett says his eyes were opened to the diversity of the property sector when he moved to Cluttons in 2004, initially joining the landlord and tenant, rating and telecoms department, before moving on to become managing director in 2023 as part of a succession plan to take over from James Gray. In the episode, John discusses his responsibilities leading one of the UK's oldest chartered surveyors and its goal to become a real assets adviser.
He also shares his views on the future of the office, the right way to retrofit and the current state of the UK planning system and what he wants to see from government to ease development costs.

You can listen to all episodes of the Top CREdentials podcast on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, or find them on the landing page below.

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